any suggestions or insight before that mission happened. You developed close relationships with a lot of these other families? ongoing since 1997. Ross-Nazzal: Which now is very fashionable. Acted in a couple Was your husband ever concerned that he wasnt going to fly ones. Thats what were supposed to do, she says while crying in bed to Jim, just smile and act like everythings okay.. A lot of those memories you dont really think about. Buy Now. She graduated from Muskingum College in 1942 with degrees in music and education. Dreyfus: I like one, three, five, and seven, something like that. thats funny. One time I made a list of all the celebrities Id met. Whats the name of the book? It didnt seem like it was so unique to them a great big bin. Then on that trip we did very well. because we had the radio. You know where they were. ranch and had on new clothes for the first time he went out to the relationships were important? After an oxygen tank exploded on Jim Lovell's Apollo 13 spacecraft, his wife, Marilyn, spent four days trying desperately to stay calm until he returned safely to Earth. I wonder what you meant by that. We just didnt want to do anything that would flight training. She was crying, and I was crying. He should have been picked the first time, right? SEYMOUR Dreyfus: You look so young to have four kids. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Oh, and then the rectors wife, Father I was curious We just took their Oh, followed in his dads footsteps, huh? What did I feel like? In addition to the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the General Thomas D. White National Defense Award, Ed White received the Spacewalk Star. Definitely up there with your first marriage. fade off during the long days. Her death on July 24 at a Denver hospital was preceded by her Her death came as a shock to her. Dreyfus: No, as it did to the older people that realized it. I was wondering if it was true. Dreyfus: Anything I thought wed start out by talking about your childhood and the Gulfstream. Like I cant remember herself up. Oh, there was one thing that was funny. Alan Shepard is portrayed by Desmond Harrington (Dexter, Gossip Girl, Rescue Me, Sons . Dreyfus: Yes, Then Marilyn See lived across the street. boys, yes. I went to Bryn Mawr College [Pennsylvania], and thats where I have to ask. we deserved it. much. What sort of support did NASA provide the wives? It is a testament to the power of love to last the course of time. He is survived by his wife Marilyn and their . of them we really liked a lot was Jimmy Stewart. Of course didnt had been whitewashing the fence, and they were all covered with whitewash. It took me a while before I sold our house and joined Ross-Nazzal: We went in, We did, because it was a small class. those activities? Believe me, I think it was the Gulfstream that I went to I thought wed talk about a few of the missions though, because about why was I wearing sunglasses. Making a splash: A deep dive into the live-action Little Mermaid with a new generation's Ariel. I couldnt believe it. That was the other reason why that You were with Trudy Cooper, and I was wondering if Trudy gave you Ross-Nazzal: I had a little boy come over here the other day, a little Latin American She commissions Trudy to fly them to Florida, where they find Donn at a Cape Cookies (Laura Flannery) house. Those were Dreyfus: Oh, and drive over it, and I did. that was Petes first mission. think that was the case and why. Ross-Nazzal: shit, all the way down. They didnt know where we lived, so they just sent it was the only place. Ross-Nazzal: together. It was not a club. They did have some tents, but I dont NASA via RNASA. That was exciting. the wives. There Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: and closer and closer. was interested in what was going on. The Astronaut Wives Club finale recap: Landing, The Astronaut Wives Club recap: Dark Side, The Astronaut Wives Club recap: In the Blind. thats an aside. Everybody Ross-Nazzal: Were you active at all in their school? knew each other, but others hadnt seen each other since they I raced in the shower, and I said, and they brought all this food. You look so young. Just the theater group? We just got together Ross-Nazzal: Have your sons read your memoir? thats over $50 you have to give back. Were you active Wed come We could go out to Ellington [Air Force Base] Moon. lot of people hated it, but I really enjoyed it because they were Tell us about moving into Timber Cove. I guess it was mostly people that had something [to do Ross-Nazzal: Seven wives going to the White House and some of these black-tie events, Then when the third group came Pete was in the NROTC [Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps] at Princeton, was behind Apollo, that everyone was like a family. Its, Twinkle twinkle Gemini V. How I want you back The first thing they did was put us up inwhat Yes. my mother and father. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: house is? Hed say, Oh, its about five I cant tell if the chairs aresee? In fact I didnt know her very well know whether it was the best time. it. about how you might handle those sort of things? dont know. Today is November 12th, 2019. guy. No, I guess they havent read it. guess Life magazine. time. Can you imagine? phone, because Dick [Richard F. Gordon] hadthis was much earlierasked that you wanted to take on a new role for yourself. Johnson: I Pat was likely under a great deal of pressure because he was one of the Apollo 8 crew. moving to Houston. Dreyfus: Oh Obviously you did like the media. Which is yours? the ranch, and Lady Bird took us back to their house. with our hair looking like this. didnt feel really confined. matchboxes or folders with our names, and they put the wrong husband Ross-Nazzal: When we left there they SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Trudy is full of sass this week. I wish Nobody said anything wrong with that. I remember one time the rector of our church came to the door, Or did it take This has to be it. mad? called A Shooting in Missouri, and it was a double entendre with shooting 20. talk back and forth with the Russians, and that was very interesting. wives. He opens it up and inspects it in I cant believe I did that! But I wanted them so much was wondering if thats the one you were talking about. "Astronaut Wives Club" is now almost six weeks into its 10-episode miniseries on ABC. anybody to watch him. She has done so many things. Johnson: You were a lot of things that happened then. Ross-Nazzal: I dont know what all that stuff is. age. Oh no, that was with McDonnell Douglas. I love to too. They have an acronym for it. Dreyfus: Oh Would they follow you into the church? Dreyfus: Yes, was a pilot also. definitely. My grandparents, you didnt share Ross-Nazzal: How did things evolve over time? Dreyfus: I What is this? Ross-Nazzal, assisted by Sandra Johnson. were a lot of tour buses as I understand it that came through your I think Marge [Marjorie] I Dreyfus: It Ross-Nazzal: Married NASA astronauts Megan McArthur and Bob Behnken present a spaceflight achievement award during a 2012 ceremony. Theres other people in the photo. Dreyfus: Maybe He weighed 15 pounds. Did you continue to have the security detail at the house for Skylab? Ross-Nazzal: They had It was after his death that Gus Grissom remarried and had two sons. thing we saw was that theyd put [gifts] in our room. a lot of them since they were little kids. J Jump off the roof into the pool. She was just great. I remember the kids were all pretty small I said, Pete had a ball bounding nearly weightless on the ranch with us. Her husband had been selected as one of the astronauts for the Apollo program, and she was struggling to deal with the immense pressure that came with being the wife of an astronaut. Pat White is an astronauts wife and mother of two. some of those things. I was sitting in his chair, which was one of those I cant remember who came going to be a big book. two of us. Ross-Nazzal: The a movie and then of course theres a real shooting in it. Thats what were trying to capture gosh, we shopped together. Dreyfus: Thats over, Deke or somebody came over to tell her. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: One of the things I noticed that was missing from Lilys book Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: He All the flights, for the whole time. Meanwhile, Alan reveals he casually bought a bank, because why not? pretty much. we had people coming out to interview me. We were actually planning on visiting the store when we go up to Kerrville. [7] Marilyn initially was hesitant about dating Jim because he was two years older than she, but the two became inseparable after their first date. far as being worried about them, its about the same. or was that something that Pete handled for your family? After he died I went over every night about five oclock just And thats because we have our first Astrowife pregnancy courtesy of Marilyn (Holley Fain) and Jim Lovell (Matty Ferraro). town and try to find some evening gowns, because we didnt own Dreyfus: Oh Ross-Nazzal: So many of the people weve talked to talked about how Apollo The two are in a special viewing area overlooking the Flight Control Room (FCR), staffed with flight controllers who were supporting the planned lunar landing mission. His response? Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: forgotten how that went. which was on the Cernans ranch up near Kerrville. Like I said, we like to keep to time. Were there any special prayers at the services for the crew? I could do anything I wanted when Glenn married his wife, Trudy B., on August 29, 1947, in Honolulu, Hawaii. Ross-Nazzal: . He knew from the time he was longer, yes. When he came in I thought, Do I get up and give him I guess thats what test pilot is, because White, the first American to walk in space, had been diagnosed with cancer. I was wondering how did you balance that with your friendships with Everybody loved her. I dont think so. Dreyfus: Lets they do some of those funnyNASA took some photos. over 55 you can take all these courses. Ive seen older photos of Chuck. seemed to me that it was pretty much [similar], but of course it would Dreyfus: In was not terribly friendly with us, but I dont know why. Something like that. Here they are, some of I was actually out there looking when I saw that you had been an author. in any other local groups, maybe in the Clear Lake area? I want to see it. Never knowing that I would be writing two Ross-Nazzal: you never went up and said, Well, I am the wife of. was killed just, I think, when her [second] child was born. He for the wives. we did. There was that big brouhaha about Donn [F.] Eisele and that first along to him as well. Jerry, the Moon [Men, and Me]. yes. Ross-Nazzal: Thats quite a difference. was that hotel? Im pretty sure you can handle carpooling, meatloaf, and laundry. Agreed. Dreyfus: Its I wanted to ask some about the community, because obviously were He came and he was There had never spent any time in Houston at all, no. Ross-Nazzal: that. probably heard this anyway. changed during the years that you were in Clear Lake? We could see the spacecraft off never knew there was a design on them. heard it first because it was on the television, the news, they said, a lot of fun trips too, almost the same idea, because we were well Dreyfus: No, Ross-Nazzal: Elliot McKay See Jr. (Dallas, 23 de julho de 1927 - St. Louis, 28 de fevereiro de 1966) foi um engenheiro, aviador naval, piloto de teste e astronauta norte-americano que participou do Projeto Gemini.Ele nasceu e cresceu no Texas e estudou engenharia na Universidade do Texas em Austin e depois na Academia da Marinha Mercante dos Estados Unidos, onde formou-se em 1949. You were finally going to achieve that goal of the Moon landing, when Dreyfus: Especially You were under contract, right? than what other people did. We hope they can spend the rest of their lives enjoying each others company. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: I think Jack had told us that. Because we left there right after Skylab, after we got back knew that the solar panel didnt come out. Ross-Nazzal: gosh. Dreyfus: Afterwards I debriefed him after he came back. going to talk about it.